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  •  12-07-2007, 9:28 AM 2254536 in reply to 2253992

    Re: 700 WLW

    panadero:

    I did not find any thing. But that is why we need to find the way to legalize the undocumented immigrants that are here.



    no, we do not need to "legalize" illegal aliens, we need to force them to go home or somewhere else.

    Why not legalize bank robbers? how about making it legal to steal money from Boy Scouts?
  •  12-07-2007, 9:31 AM 2254561 in reply to 2254536

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    Ok, get them out. You have solve the problem.

  •  12-07-2007, 9:35 AM 2254580 in reply to 2254536

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    The tragedy of the boys scouts have nothing to do with this issue. We are talking about the hard working immigrants. Nobody wants robbers, immigrants or not.

  •  12-07-2007, 11:23 AM 2255181 in reply to 2254580

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    panadero:

    The tragedy of the boys scouts have nothing to do with this issue. We are talking about the hard working immigrants. Nobody wants robbers, immigrants or not.



    Illegal Alien = someone who has broken into the USA without invitation, without permission, someone who is stealing from all legal citizens. If an illegal alien is not a :robber" than neither are those that stole money from Boy Scouts at gun point.
  •  12-07-2007, 4:01 PM 2256502 in reply to 2253980

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    panadero:
    So , what is your solution?

     

    MY solution?  If immigrants are here legally, ONLY accept minimum wage.  By undercutting fellow citizens, you're ultimately undercutting yourself.  The bidding starts to go backwards.

    If an office worker today is earning $9 an hour, and you're willing to do it for $3, that means if I want that same job, I have to take it for $2.50 an hour. 

    That means if you want that job, you have to take $2.50 or less.

    and I'm only talking about legally recognized immigrants.

    Now, you've got illegal workers willing to do it less than that.  Now I can't get a job, because I can't work for that little money.

    Now you're putting ALL legal US citizens out of work.

     

    You don't call that stealing?  They're stealing jobs.  Benefits. Health Care.  The very food I put on my table.

     

     

     

  •  12-07-2007, 4:52 PM 2256691 in reply to 2256502

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    If you need a job, you can get a job. It might not be the perfect job, but they are out there.

  •  12-07-2007, 4:56 PM 2256712 in reply to 2255181

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    If that is the way you feel there is no reason to talk about this. You are never going to see the reality. So keep hating us and good luck trying to get rid off us.

  •  12-07-2007, 6:09 PM 2256956 in reply to 2256712

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    What you say is very true.  There is no reason to talk about this if people do not want to see reality:

    http://www.house.gov/garymiller/IllegalsCost2005.html

  •  12-07-2007, 7:21 PM 2257101 in reply to 2256691

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    panadero:

    If you need a job, you can get a job. It might not be the perfect job, but they are out there.

     

    Yes, they are out there, but that really wasn't my point.

    When you are willing to lower the standard of the value of any job, you lower the standards for everyone.  The standard of living drops.  For everyone.

    When you are willing to take a job for less than what the set price for that job is, you lower the standard across the board.  An employer will look at his bottom line.  If you take less than minimum wage, and no benefits, you've saved him thousands of dollars a year.

    Now, some legal citizens lose their health care, can't pay for a doctor, can't get immunizations, can't buy formula for their starving child.

    Ultimately, illegals kill our economy.  Then, the very place the illegals are trying to leave, you've just created in another country.

    There are reasons laws exist.  They've worked for 200 years.  Now, a group from other countries feel like, HEY!!  Land of opportunity!!  Lets just illegally cross the border, steal jobs, steal food, steal whatever we need because we WANT to.

    No, NO you don't.  You don't have the right to steal.  You don't have the right to be in a country illegally.  You don't have the right to take jobs away from hard working LEGAL citizens.  You don't have a right to take away OUR benefits. 

    So many people fought to get these benefits in place.  Now you just want "squatters rights."

    That's not just illegal.  That's just downright unfair.

     

    If you want to be in this country, all I ask is you do it legally.  Observe our laws.  Don't accept unfair hiring practices.  Treat others as you would want to be treated yourself.

     

     

  •  12-07-2007, 9:32 PM 2257402 in reply to 2257101

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    cyberkat, I think they are trying to tell us that the there is a "new law."  That they can decide what is legal or illegal, what is a crime or what is not a crime.  They don't care about out laws.  And they don't care what you or I think!

  •  12-07-2007, 11:53 PM 2257798 in reply to 2257402

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    peace2u:

    cyberkat, I think they are trying to tell us that the there is a "new law."  That they can decide what is legal or illegal, what is a crime or what is not a crime.  They don't care about out laws.  And they don't care what you or I think!

    Oh, I got that. (they don't care what you, I, or anyone else thinks).  This topic wouldn't be going on since August if they cared.

    But, if they want to know why legal citizens are so angry, I'm telling them why.  I realize it falls on deaf ears.

    "New law" sounds like the old west.

     

     

  •  12-09-2007, 5:06 PM 2263291 in reply to 2257798

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    I’m wondering, if this ILLIGAL IMMIGRANT will be the only person that can save your live, you will say no because (according to you) he was a thief.

     

    http://www.wbaltv.com/family/11177318/detail.html?rss=bal&psp=news

  •  12-09-2007, 7:30 PM 2263961 in reply to 2263291

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    panadero:

     

    I’m wondering, if this ILLIGAL IMMIGRANT will be the only person that can save your live, you will say no because (according to you) he was a thief.

     

    http://www.wbaltv.com/family/11177318/detail.html?rss=bal&psp=news



    There is a huge difference, while he once was a "wetback", illegal alien, he is now a US Citizen. The difference is that he is a CITIZEN and most illegals have no intention of becoming citizens.

    The fact still remains that he entered illegally, be he was able to overcome this and become a citizen.

    THAT IS WHAT WE WANT, I have no problem with anyone entering legally and becomming a citizen, that is what the USA is all about. The doctor did not enter legally, but he must have been able to convince the INS that he should stay.

    Illegal alien = liar, theif, cheat, slimey grease ball.
  •  12-09-2007, 9:43 PM 2264447 in reply to 2263291

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    To be a World-Renound Brain Surgeon is a blessing to all, but we have been blessed with many scientists and physicians from foreign countries who came here as "legal" immigrants from Europe.

    Honestly, for that type of surgeon, if I were dying, I would probably not be important enough to save - not enough money, no influencial friends, not the right medical problem or ethnic origin to gain world attention.

     

  •  12-09-2007, 9:54 PM 2264487 in reply to 2263961

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    If they have the choice they would be legal, that is a fact. According to all of you, there is no difference, illegal is illegal. So according to you this doctor is a liar, thief, cheat, slimy grease ball.

    That is why we need a immigration reform,

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