El Critico:

Usted puede tratar todo lo que quiera, buena suerte con conseguir suficientes agentes de inmigración que deporten a millones de inmigrantes. ESO NUNCA VA A PASAR. Si en cambio, usaran el cerebro, registraríamos a los que vienen de afuera y los que están aquí, para poder sacar a los criminales y dejar a los que quieren trabajar. Pero con gente con la mente cerrada como usted, nos quedaremos como estamos, nosotros trabajando y usted llorando por su pared.

 

You can try all you want, good luck finding enough immigration agents to deport millions of immigrants. IS NOT GOING TO HAPPENED. If you will use your brain and register the people that are here and the ones that are coming, we will be able to keep the criminals out, and keep the people that wants to work in. But, with closed minded people like you, will stay the same way we are now; Us working and you crying for your wall.

 

 

so, let me get this straight, if I find a house, a nice house, and I do not own it, I do not rent it, but I just move in and set up housekeeping, you feel this is OK?

 

NO ONE is preventing LEGAL immigration, no one is saying anything about persons that enter LEGALLY, it is only those that break the law, those that flaunt the law, those that "thunb thier noses" at the law, these are the ones that need to be rounded up and forcibly evicted.

 

There may not be enough ICE agents, but as long as we have progressive sheriff's such as Sheriff Jones, we will always have plenty.

 

what does your buddy mean closed minded/ Why do we need thousands of immag  officals ? All we need is what made this country in the beginning, A lot of pissed off americans with guns. And what do you mean no we wont  better look at the past and not make the mistakes a lot of other people have made.

El problema para ustedes, es que la mayoría de los americanos no piensan como ustedes, la mayoría, aceptan a los inmigrantes y no necesitan el utilizar armas para solucionar problemas. El uso de las armas es para la gente que no tiene el cerebro para dialogar.

I totally agree with El Critico, "la violencia es el arma de los que no tienen la razon" those that only speak English will have to use the dictionary and try to make sense of the sentence above. Having a second language far from being a disgrace is an advantage.

 For those "Americans" who give the immigrants hard time and spend their hours writing in Forums like this,  but are incapable of working 12 hours under the sun in landscaping on in the fields as "Braceros" look deep and think hard.  It is easy for all of you to just issue an opinion, while the rest of us (including immigrants) are working hard and paying taxes so you can get your Food Stamps, Disability Checks, Assistance Living, Welfare, Medicare and others. So the next time your words are targeting those "Immigrants", think twice, if we leave, so might your free dollars.

 

 

Gina:

I totally agree with El Critico, "la violencia es el arma de los que no tienen la razon" those that only speak English will have to use the dictionary and try to make sense of the sentence above. Having a second language far from being a disgrace is an advantage.

 For those "Americans" who give the immigrants hard time and spend their hours writing in Forums like this,  but are incapable of working 12 hours under the sun in landscaping on in the fields as "Braceros" look deep and think hard.  It is easy for all of you to just issue an opinion, while the rest of us (including immigrants) are working hard and paying taxes so you can get your Food Stamps, Disability Checks, Assistance Living, Welfare, Medicare and others. So the next time your words are targeting those "Immigrants", think twice, if we leave, so might your free dollars.

 

 

 

After you learn the English Language, you will discover there is a DIFFERENCE between "immigrant" and ILLEGAL ALIEN.

 

As for cheap labor, I'm all for it! If I can get a DISCOUNTED labor force, more profit for my stock holders.

I can always use a yard boy or a pool boy that will work cheap, I can also always use a physical labor grunt that will work for less then union scale. 

 

In the mean time, consider these illegal workers, to be here, they have broken USA law, they have crossed the soverign border, they have stolen a legal citizens idenification, they are criminals. As for paying taxes, great, everyone pays taxes, should they get special rights because they pay taxes, NO! Should they get a tax refund? NO!, should they be entitled to Social Security benefits? NO!

 

Nosotros manejamos el ingles muy bien, de hecho no tenemos que usar diccionarios que no sirven en la Internet para saber lo que esta diciendo, en cambio usted no tiene la fortuna de hablar dos idiomas, así que le recomiendo que no hable de saber idiomas.

Yo entiendo la diferencia en los términos, ilegal o no ilegal eso no importa. En teoría están rompiendo la ley, pero si vienen aquí para trabajar y para dar una contribución a nuestro país, que sean bienvenidos. Nadie quiere a criminales que matan, roban o abusan de este gran país, eso nadie lo va a discutir. Si en este país no hubiera la necesidad de la mano de obra, créame que no habrían tantos inmigrantes, si hay una demanda es por que los que quieren vivir del gobierno y no quieren trabajar no aprovechan las oportunidades que este país tiene que ofrecer.

Immigrant by definition is a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.

So according to you when you can use cheap labor it is OK to use the Immigrants and they are no criminals, but if they work, pay their taxes, don't use the services and are here illegally then they are criminals. It is clear to me that your opinion is based on your personal interest and not on the Country you say you represent. I am glad that people with your mentality are less than 5% of the population and like it or not we are a Big Majority and will, with our dedication and hard work, make this country bigger and better.

You however will remain just there, resenting the fact that we are part of your society and probably at the end you will be the one providing cheap labor for us... who knows!!!!!

Buena Suerte...

IN YOUR DREAMS!

You won't keep working if we keep prosecuting the employers.  I don't have a problem with people coming here to work, just do it legally.I do have a problem with having unidentifiable people within the distance of my children.  I want to know who is in my country, what diseases they may have, and what crimes they might be guilty of.  I want to be able to trace the person who might have done something to my child.  None of these things happen when you are here illegally.  I just want a safe world for my child to live in, and it is MY country, so I think I have that right. 

Americans will fight to protect our nation, whether it is from terrorists or bullies forcing their way in.  Do it the right way, and people won't have a problem with you.

exphoneman:

Gina:

I totally agree with El Critico, "la violencia es el arma de los que no tienen la razon" those that only speak English will have to use the dictionary and try to make sense of the sentence above. Having a second language far from being a disgrace is an advantage.

 For those "Americans" who give the immigrants hard time and spend their hours writing in Forums like this,  but are incapable of working 12 hours under the sun in landscaping on in the fields as "Braceros" look deep and think hard.  It is easy for all of you to just issue an opinion, while the rest of us (including immigrants) are working hard and paying taxes so you can get your Food Stamps, Disability Checks, Assistance Living, Welfare, Medicare and others. So the next time your words are targeting those "Immigrants", think twice, if we leave, so might your free dollars.

 Gina,

 

I am not on any of the public assistance programs that you speak of, but I do know that they have been around far longer than these "immigrants" have been.  Those making far more money than these low paid immigrants pay far more into the system than you ever will, so I don't really see any basis to your argument.  What I have seen, with my own eyes, is many, many Mexicans in line at the WIC office waiting to receive their free health care and milk and peanut butter. 

 

Just how do you think America was built to be such a large, wealthy leading nation?  Was it the Mexican work force that got us here?  I don't think so.  Do you see all of those migrant farm workers heading up important companies and making important discoveries to better our nation?  Nope.  America is, always has been, and always will be the greatest nation in the world, and it is not due to the broken backs or fearless courage of the Mexicans.  It is because of the AMERICANS, past, present, and future that we have gotten to where we are and will stay where we are.

 

 

After you learn the English Language, you will discover there is a DIFFERENCE between "immigrant" and ILLEGAL ALIEN.

 

As for cheap labor, I'm all for it! If I can get a DISCOUNTED labor force, more profit for my stock holders.

I can always use a yard boy or a pool boy that will work cheap, I can also always use a physical labor grunt that will work for less then union scale. 

 

In the mean time, consider these illegal workers, to be here, they have broken USA law, they have crossed the soverign border, they have stolen a legal citizens idenification, they are criminals. As for paying taxes, great, everyone pays taxes, should they get special rights because they pay taxes, NO! Should they get a tax refund? NO!, should they be entitled to Social Security benefits? NO!

 

El Critico:

Nosotros manejamos el ingles muy bien, de hecho no tenemos que usar diccionarios que no sirven en la Internet para saber lo que esta diciendo, en cambio usted no tiene la fortuna de hablar dos idiomas, así que le recomiendo que no hable de saber idiomas.

Yo entiendo la diferencia en los términos, ilegal o no ilegal eso no importa. En teoría están rompiendo la ley, pero si vienen aquí para trabajar y para dar una contribución a nuestro país, que sean bienvenidos. Nadie quiere a criminales que matan, roban o abusan de este gran país, eso nadie lo va a discutir. Si en este país no hubiera la necesidad de la mano de obra, créame que no habrían tantos inmigrantes, si hay una demanda es por que los que quieren vivir del gobierno y no quieren trabajar no aprovechan las oportunidades que este país tiene que ofrecer.

 

NO THEORY about it! They entered a soverign state (the USA) illegally, they crossed a border, uninvited. They are CRIMINALS, banditos and this must ALTO NOW.

Far too many of your poor unfortuates are robbers, murderers, rapists and child abusers.

Get them OUT of the USA, send them back from where they came.

To gina The mexs i run into at there places of work claim abt six dependants and pay no taxes they dont even have to prove how many they have. They live twenty in a two bedroom house and send most of their money to mex, they send millions of dollars out of the us and spend very little here. they get free medical care and anything else they can apply for so dont say they contrib that much to the US. I also agree with the most of what aimhi869 says.

I screwed up I dont agree with aimhi i must have had a mex bubble

So they don't eat, they don't buy groceries, and they send the money to mexico with doves to save some money.

There is the problem is, they are not prosecuting anybody. You are all living in a fantasy world. Must people that were arrested in the raids are already back to work. Ice, does not have the infrastructure to deport 7 million immigrants. And they also understand the value of immigration. Why do you think that the IRS has a ITIN number? That is a number to pay taxes if you don’t have social security. If they didn’t see the value of immigrants they would not let you pay taxes. You want to identify people? Let them register to a work program, like our president try to pass. Believe me, if there is a way to come to this country legally that will be the route they will take. How many Hispanics terrorist do you know? You should be more concern about a old white man that is a pedophile, that about hard working Hispanics. Your kids are going to be fine, we are not musters. There are bad people, you are right about that, but don’t judge Hispanics only, bad people are white, black, Asian, Hispanic and any other nationality.