A Severe TSTORM Watch is in effect until Midnight for most of the area.

All of Northern Kentucky, Ripley, Dearborn, Ohio, and Switzerland counties in Indiana, Hamilton, Clermont, Brown, Adams counties in Ohio.

James

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James
Wx Producer WKRC
www.twitter.com/cincywxpro

Isn't it amazing how the counties most directly affected by the severe weather tonight weren't even included in the supposed "Watch" area...?????  And yet there were Tornado warnings issued for Butler, Warren, and Clinton counties up here?!?!

Why doesn't the weather service give a flying fig if we, up here in the northern 'burbs, get blown away or not?  I'm really starting to get fed up with this.

This was an old watch. There was a new one that was extended to all of the tri-state. so don't blame the NWS or the SPC.

They did their jobs and put out watches and warnings.

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Nick

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Hey trebor, I wondered about you last night when I heard that West Chester was getting slammed! I live in Northern Colerain Twp and we didnt get anything except some lightening and maybe a little rain (my kids told me that it did in fact rain later last night but I was sound asleep). Anyway, glad to know that you are fine. I also thought it was strange that the watch was originally for the southern counties, but it was the northern counties that got the brunt of the bad weather. Goes to show that Mother Nature can still change her mind. You know how we women are!!!!

nwswannabe:

This was an old watch. There was a new one that was extended to all of the tri-state. so don't blame the NWS or the SPC.

They did their jobs and put out watches and warnings.

Not to sound like I'm mad at you, but we don't all have our butts plastered in front of the TV or next to a radio on Saturday evening, so I don't appreciate being made to feel like it's my fault for not knowing a watch area had been expanded.  When they issue one just 3 hours before the storms hit, and it does NOT include your area, I think it's reasonably safe to presume you're out of the line of fire.  So excuse me, but yes I'll blame the weather service if I want to!  They need to learn how to better predict the weather.  There's no excuse for them not recognizing the possibility for the watch area to expand.  If they can predict rain 5 days in advance, they should also know better how to predict watch areas sooner.

The sirens right up the street from me...just 500 feet...didn't even sound until the news reported a hook echo over West Chester heading toward Loveland and Mason.  It only sounded for about THREE minutes, and then shut off.  A little while after that and I got nailed by a strong storm, but the sirens didn't make a peep then!  My mom, who lives in West Hamilton, said the siren right across the street from her NEVER sounded at all....even when it was reported that some rotation was seen in a storm heading toward Hamilton! This is the same nonsense that has happened in the past with Butler county.

wishin4spring:

Hey trebor, I wondered about you last night when I heard that West Chester was getting slammed! I live in Northern Colerain Twp and we didnt get anything except some lightening and maybe a little rain (my kids told me that it did in fact rain later last night but I was sound asleep). Anyway, glad to know that you are fine. I also thought it was strange that the watch was originally for the southern counties, but it was the northern counties that got the brunt of the bad weather. Goes to show that Mother Nature can still change her mind. You know how we women are!!!!

Thanks for thinking about me...that was sweet!  The thing is, I RARELY get slammed by any storm in the part of West Chester where I live.  It's usually the part of WC east side of I-75 that gets hit, or else up toward Liberty Township.  Somehow the storms dissipate as they get to my area, and jump around me.  I watched it happen Thursday as I was looking at the radar.  A storm was headed right in my direction, and just as it was crossing over the eastern part of Fairfield, it fell apart and slid to my north.  Last night was one of those rare times when it came over me.

Now....if I could just get Mother Nature to start dumping tons of snow on me in the Winter, I'll be set! :-p

trebor:

nwswannabe:

This was an old watch. There was a new one that was extended to all of the tri-state. so don't blame the NWS or the SPC.

They did their jobs and put out watches and warnings.

Not to sound like I'm mad at you, but we don't all have our butts plastered in front of the TV or next to a radio on Saturday evening, so I don't appreciate being made to feel like it's my fault for not knowing a watch area had been expanded.  When they issue one just 3 hours before the storms hit, and it does NOT include your area, I think it's reasonably safe to presume you're out of the line of fire.  So excuse me, but yes I'll blame the weather service if I want to!  They need to learn how to better predict the weather.  There's no excuse for them not recognizing the possibility for the watch area to expand.  If they can predict rain 5 days in advance, they should also know better how to predict watch areas sooner.

The sirens right up the street from me...just 500 feet...didn't even sound until the news reported a hook echo over West Chester heading toward Loveland and Mason.  It only sounded for about THREE minutes, and then shut off.  A little while after that and I got nailed by a strong storm, but the sirens didn't make a peep then!  My mom, who lives in West Hamilton, said the siren right across the street from her NEVER sounded at all....even when it was reported that some rotation was seen in a storm heading toward Hamilton! This is the same nonsense that has happened in the past with Butler county.

Ok Ok Calm down everyone.  Here's the thing.  When a watch is issued, for example it was originally issued for Cincy and areas south.  The golden rule is for EVERYONE IN OR NEAR the watch area to be prepared for changing weather conditions.  I think the watches went out at a reasonable time, though I personally think that both watches should have been tornado watches, but who am I to criticize.  I toured the SPC department a few weeks ago and that visit  made me respect them more than I did.  They have to deal with alot when issuing a watch.  They first outline the particular watch box to set up where the first storm develops one side of the box, and exits the area on the other side of the box (usually in about 6 hours).  In the case of the first watch issued here yesterday, it was a 7 hr watch box.  Also storms just fired everywhere, so the one side to the other theory didn't work.  Next, they have a conference call with each NWS office affected by the soon-to-be watch box to explain the situation and pretty much negotiate the positioning of the watch.  Then the watch is issued to the public.  That may not seem so hard, but trust me it's difficult.

So the next time a Tornado Watch or SVR Tstorm Watch is issued for just parts of the area, the surrounding counties need to also be aware of any developing wx situation.  Mother Nature doesn't care if it's Saturday night or not.  If dangerous wx happens, it's going to happen regardless.

I agree with the comment about the sirens sounding.  I was a little disappointed with the huge delay with sounding the sirens in Hamilton County.  I believe they sounded 10 minutes or so after the warning was issued. 

James

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James
Wx Producer WKRC
www.twitter.com/cincywxpro

Hey Treb..we  had 10 inches of snow in florence last night...Did you receive any?? LOL

cincywxpro_12:

trebor:

nwswannabe:

This was an old watch. There was a new one that was extended to all of the tri-state. so don't blame the NWS or the SPC.

They did their jobs and put out watches and warnings.

Not to sound like I'm mad at you, but we don't all have our butts plastered in front of the TV or next to a radio on Saturday evening, so I don't appreciate being made to feel like it's my fault for not knowing a watch area had been expanded.  When they issue one just 3 hours before the storms hit, and it does NOT include your area, I think it's reasonably safe to presume you're out of the line of fire.  So excuse me, but yes I'll blame the weather service if I want to!  They need to learn how to better predict the weather.  There's no excuse for them not recognizing the possibility for the watch area to expand.  If they can predict rain 5 days in advance, they should also know better how to predict watch areas sooner.

The sirens right up the street from me...just 500 feet...didn't even sound until the news reported a hook echo over West Chester heading toward Loveland and Mason.  It only sounded for about THREE minutes, and then shut off.  A little while after that and I got nailed by a strong storm, but the sirens didn't make a peep then!  My mom, who lives in West Hamilton, said the siren right across the street from her NEVER sounded at all....even when it was reported that some rotation was seen in a storm heading toward Hamilton! This is the same nonsense that has happened in the past with Butler county.

Ok Ok Calm down everyone.  Here's the thing.  When a watch is issued, for example it was originally issued for Cincy and areas south.  The golden rule is for EVERYONE IN OR NEAR the watch area to be prepared for changing weather conditions.  I think the watches went out at a reasonable time, though I personally think that both watches should have been tornado watches, but who am I to criticize.  I toured the SPC department a few weeks ago and that visit  made me respect them more than I did.  They have to deal with alot when issuing a watch.  They first outline the particular watch box to set up where the first storm develops one side of the box, and exits the area on the other side of the box (usually in about 6 hours).  In the case of the first watch issued here yesterday, it was a 7 hr watch box.  Also storms just fired everywhere, so the one side to the other theory didn't work.  Next, they have a conference call with each NWS office affected by the soon-to-be watch box to explain the situation and pretty much negotiate the positioning of the watch.  Then the watch is issued to the public.  That may not seem so hard, but trust me it's difficult.

So the next time a Tornado Watch or SVR Tstorm Watch is issued for just parts of the area, the surrounding counties need to also be aware of any developing wx situation.  Mother Nature doesn't care if it's Saturday night or not.  If dangerous wx happens, it's going to happen regardless.

I agree with the comment about the sirens sounding.  I was a little disappointed with the huge delay with sounding the sirens in Hamilton County.  I believe they sounded 10 minutes or so after the warning was issued. 

James

I think the golden rule is right...if a watch is issued for a county near you, you should watch!  Storms sure don't know the boundary lines!

Donna

Well said Donna,  I had to make an essay out of the whole ordeal :)

James

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James
Wx Producer WKRC
www.twitter.com/cincywxpro

All and all, we live in Cincinnati afterall...as we all know, storms tend to change paths and directions rather quickly.  My golden rule is expect the unexpected in the tri-state area.

Joe

cincywxpro_12:

Well said Donna,  I had to make an essay out of the whole ordeal :)

James

If I had on my teacher hat I would too!

Bearcat04:

All and all, we live in Cincinnati afterall...as we all know, storms tend to change paths and directions rather quickly.  My golden rule is expect the unexpected in the tri-state area.

Joe

Exactly!

donna

My golden rule is do (say) unto others as you would have them do (say) unto you.  I think it applies herein too.

I am sorry if i offended any one. just trying to defend the SPC and NWS. I apologize if i came off a little strong.

I am sorry

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Nick

www.twitter.com/nwswannabe1