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Death of dog prosecuted, death of child not

Last post 10-16-2008, 9:03 PM by Jim Schu. 7 replies.
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  •  08-23-2008, 8:18 PM 3337326

    Death of dog prosecuted, death of child not

    On the very day that Cecilia Slaby was found dead in her mother's Mercedes SUV, a dog was found dead in the back yard of a black neighborhood in Hamilton County.

    Although the owner of the house had no knowledge of the strange dead dog in her backyard, she was hauled out in handcuffs and her children were placed in temporary foster care.

    After being locked up in the Justice Center for several days, she finally faced a judge and was convicted and sentenced to time served, even though her 10-year-old nephew appeared in court and explained to the judge that he had put the sick dog in his aunt's yard without telling her on his way to school, and had planned to come back after it later.

    The judge acknowledged that perhaps the woman didn't know about the dog, but his rationale in finding her guilty was that SHE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WAS IN HER OWN BACKYARD.

    So, following that same logic, wouldn't Jodie Edwards and Brenda Slaby be responsible for what was in their own SUVs?

    The black lady didn't put the dog in her yard, but both Edwards and Slaby admit having strapped their daughters into those car seats themselves.

    NO LAW CAN BE CONSIDERED JUST UNLESS IT IS EQUALLY APPLIED TO ALL CITIZENS, REGARDLESS OF RACE OR ECONOMIC STANDING.

  •  08-25-2008, 4:15 PM 3342740 in reply to 3337326

    Re: Death of dog prosecuted, death of child not

    You are 100% correct

    Double Standard Justice.

  •  08-27-2008, 10:49 AM 3348273 in reply to 3337326

    Re: Death of dog prosecuted, death of child not

    WOW ! are you kidding me? Did you make that up? I mean ,I can beleive it..but dang !!! That is the most rediculous thing !

    You know ,the way the story goes is that not only did edwards strap her baby in that car seat ONCE, but TWICE ! that morning. WOW.

    How can anyone deny that she broke some kind of a law that is punishable ?

    I will tell you one thing. it is my definate,STRONG opinion that if deters does NOT charge and prosecute this woman, if he chooses to give these mom's free pass to kill their children he needs to hand over his resignation then and there on the spot.

    These woman were responsible for their children and they failed them MISERABLY. No joke they have to live with it ! Why do people think that IS their punishment DAH,that is their self inflicted punishment !

    We all self inflict ourselves with different types of punishment but that does not exempt us from being prosecuted.

    My son let his insurance lapse,THEN rear ended some one ! No one was hurt,but my son put himself in a world of hurt. His car looks like crap,his license got suspended,he is getting sued for property damage...on and on. Maybe he should have said he JUST FORGOT to pay that bill,had he remembered the bill he would have paid it therefore, he shouldnt be held liable....mmmmm...no..dont think thats going to fly. He really did 'forget' his bill but he is still paying the price for his mistake. In no way can you  compare a babies life to a car fender bender and Im not.To any logical thinking person out there you know exactly where I am coming from.

    My son is a very good kid,he was just getting off from work, he wasnt drinking or doing anything stupid,except just 'not' paying attention. My son  has many people that love him and would vouch that he is a great person, my son is a Christan  and this hasnt ever happened to him before.... You get where Im coming from..HE STILL HAD CONSEQUENCES FOR HIS ACTIONS! Legally...more for a fender bender than this mom may get for negligently leaving her own flesh and blood out in her vehicle to die an excruaiating death.

    WRONG WRONG WRONG I dont care HOW you look at it.

     

  •  08-27-2008, 2:26 PM 3349257 in reply to 3348273

    Re: Death of dog prosecuted, death of child not

    You obviously raised your son well. It sounds like he did not try to flee the scene or blame someone else, like blaming the insurance company for not sending him a reminder. His lack of attention caused a problem which he is now in the process of fixing. Good kid.

     

    When I was about 8 and just learning to ride a bike without training wheels, I accidentally scratched the lower part of a parked car with my pedal. I came home and told Dad, and he walked with me down to the house where the car was parked. The owner took the car to car the scratch buffed out, and it came out of my allowance all summer.

     

    More kids need to be raised with solid middle-class values like this. We wouldn’t have the "Teflon generation" – no responsibility sticks to them.

  •  09-22-2008, 6:38 PM 3466548 in reply to 3337326

    Re: Death of dog prosecuted, death of child not

    I certainly mean Eastgatetax (EGT) no disrespect here, however… her version of this event has not been verified by one credible source.  She stated that she would provide me with this woman’s name but has yet to deliver on that promise.  The two sources I found (certainly not credible by any means) seem to severely contradict her version.  These sites, cbincubator.org and skeptikone.blogspot.com, (hereinafter known as ‘sites’) are both dedicated to bewailing the fact that blacks are not treated fairly by our legal system.  Clearly we should be able to see where their bias lies. 

     

    A comparison of the discernable facts on these sites to eastgatetax’s (EGT’s)version shows the following inconsistencies.  A)  EGT – The woman had no knowledge that the dog was in her yard.  .  Sites – The woman’s brother asked her for permission (and received it) to keep the dog at her house.  .  B)  EGT – The dog was in the yard for only one day.  .  Sites – The dog had obviously been there for some time.  .  C)  EGT – The woman was hauled off in handcuffs.  .  Sites – The woman was cited to court.  .  D)  EGT - Her children were placed in temporary foster care.  .  Sites – Entirely omit this detail.  .  E)  EGT – She never faced a judge until she was in jail for several days.  .  Sites – After 10 days of her 2-week sentence she faced the judge (for the second time).  .  F)  EGT – She was sentenced to time served.  .  Sites – She was released four days early from her two-week sentence.  .  G)  EGT – Her 10-year old nephew appeared in court and explained to the judge that he had put the sick dog in his aunt’s yard without telling her on his way to school, and had planned to come back after it later.  .  Sites – Do not mention this ‘nephew’.  (I do not dispute that the nephew may have appeared in court and gave these details to the judge.  If he did, he very well may have committed perjury in an attempt to clear his aunt of these charges.  Certainly his story would contradict the apparent facts of the case).

     

    These are extremely disturbing differences.  Do not accept either of these versions as ‘fact’ without additional information.  I implore eastgatetax to prove her facts or remove her story. 

  •  09-23-2008, 8:22 AM 3468842 in reply to 3466548

    Re: Death of dog prosecuted, death of child not

    Jim Schu:

    I certainly mean Eastgatetax (EGT) no disrespect here, however… her version of this event has not been verified by one credible source.  She stated that she would provide me with this woman’s name but has yet to deliver on that promise.  The two sources I found (certainly not credible by any means) seem to severely contradict her version.  These sites, cbincubator.org and skeptikone.blogspot.com, (hereinafter known as ‘sites’) are both dedicated to bewailing the fact that blacks are not treated fairly by our legal system.  Clearly we should be able to see where their bias lies. 

     

    A comparison of the discernable facts on these sites to eastgatetax’s (EGT’s)version shows the following inconsistencies.  A)  EGT – The woman had no knowledge that the dog was in her yard.  .  Sites – The woman’s brother asked her for permission (and received it) to keep the dog at her house.  .  B)  EGT – The dog was in the yard for only one day.  .  Sites – The dog had obviously been there for some time.  .  C)  EGT – The woman was hauled off in handcuffs.  .  Sites – The woman was cited to court.  .  D)  EGT - Her children were placed in temporary foster care.  .  Sites – Entirely omit this detail.  .  E)  EGT – She never faced a judge until she was in jail for several days.  .  Sites – After 10 days of her 2-week sentence she faced the judge (for the second time).  .  F)  EGT – She was sentenced to time served.  .  Sites – She was released four days early from her two-week sentence.  .  G)  EGT – Her 10-year old nephew appeared in court and explained to the judge that he had put the sick dog in his aunt’s yard without telling her on his way to school, and had planned to come back after it later.  .  Sites – Do not mention this ‘nephew’.  (I do not dispute that the nephew may have appeared in court and gave these details to the judge.  If he did, he very well may have committed perjury in an attempt to clear his aunt of these charges.  Certainly his story would contradict the apparent facts of the case).

     

    These are extremely disturbing differences.  Do not accept either of these versions as ‘fact’ without additional information.  I implore eastgatetax to prove her facts or remove her story. 

     

    eastgatetax has an agenda, rather than crusade here, why not move your pitch fork and torch party to the court house.

     

    Call for a review of these judges that you feel have not performed in the best interest of all.

  •  09-24-2008, 12:46 AM 3473320 in reply to 3337326

    Death of dog prosecuted, death of child not

    Some argue the facts of the Lincoln Heights lady who was charged  over a dog's life and Jodie Edwards and Cecilia Slaby  who weren't charge after leaving the children in their vehicles while they went to work, which later died.  The facts of these cases is the keyword "CHARGED". Our justice system was put in place for the people of the community to render right or wrong verdicts in offenses of a serious nature.  Neither lady who left their children in a hot SUV were even charged (the Slaby case was in Clermont county where Deters has no jurisdiction).  Mr. Deters took the law into his own hands and decided not to charge Jodie Edwards, which only the Prosecutor can do, but charged a lady who may not have truly known of the dog chained in her back yard. This distrubs me that she wasn't charged.  Her guilt, innocence, or self punishment should not play a part in CHARGING  because it didn't play a part for the grandma from Lincoln Heights.  Mr. Deters should never speak for an entire county in cases of this nature because it could be you or me one day and we may not be so lucky to recieve his mercy.  Is it a race issue? Is it a money issue?  What ever it is, it gives the black and poverty stricken citizens in this county the perception they can never get a fair trail here now or later.  The justice system should at least be allowed to run its course before innocence or guilt is decided...and it should never be decided by one person. When this happens to someone of color or no money, will Mr. Deters be so gracious and accept the simple answer? "I Forgot ......."
  •  10-16-2008, 9:03 PM 3539323 in reply to 3473320

    Re: Death of dog prosecuted, death of child not

       Can we legitimately compare the story of the Lincoln Heights woman with Mrs. Edwards?  For starters, I believe we need to discern the correct ‘facts’ from each story.  A version of events of the Lincoln Heights woman seems incredibly hard to believe and extremely racist.  A little research will quickly discern why it is so incredibly hard to believe.  Saying that this version is biased, inaccurate, and purposefully deceiving would be a generously polite way to describe it. 

     

       Now it is also important to know who charged (or failed to) whom?  The police chose to charge the Lincoln Heights woman while they elected not to charge Mrs. Edwards.  So let’s be clear here, the officers choose NOT to charge Edwards.  In either case the prosecutor still has the right to pick up charges if evidence suggests he should (as he could have with Edwards) or to dismiss charges if he feels there is a lack of evidence for a conviction (as he could have regarding the Lincoln Heights woman).  He reviewed the police report and elected not to prosecute. 

     

       Is there a problem here?  There could be IF he shows a pattern of prosecuting only low-income or black residents while exercising leniency towards high-income whites with important connections.  A careful review of Deters history clearly indicates that he does not base his decisions on socio-economic status!  There is NO PROOF of these wild allegations!  Even if we allow the perverted version of the woman in Lincoln Heights, one case does not establish a pattern! 

     

       You state, “Our justice system was put in place for the people of the community to render right or wrong verdicts in offenses of a serious nature.”  I beg to differ with you but, Our justice system was put in place for the people of the community to render RIGHT verdicts in ALL offenses! 

    You state that, “Mr. Deters took the law into his own hands…”.  HELLO!  That’s what we pay him for!  Not ONLY him, also every police officer that pulls you over with the discretionary power to charge you or to give you a warning.  And let’s not forget the judges that also ‘take the law into their own hands’ while presiding over these cases.  This also applies to the governors of states that can ‘take the law into their own hands’ when they grant pardons or offer clemency to individuals.  This also applies to the President of the United States! 

     

       The Lincoln Heights woman had full knowledge of the dog in her back yard.  You can believe otherwise or you can actually look into the facts of her case.  I chose not to believe the ramblings of a woman with an agenda.  We are, after all, only as intelligent as the sources we elect to believe. 

     

       You state, “Mr. Deters should never speak for an entire county in cases of this nature… “.  Are you serious?  This is a ludicrous statement.  How do you propose we handle these cases?  Should we have a County wide ‘vote’ for these cases?  Should every individual have his or her say in the matter?  Should we flip a coin?  Perhaps Mrs. Edwards should put her hand in a basket full of venomous snakes.  How about we randomly chose individuals from the phonebook to be ‘Prosecutor of the Day’?  You should seriously consider the meaning of your words here. 

     

       So, did Mr. Deters make the wrong decision here?  That’s a matter of opinion not fact.  My only purpose for commenting here was to discuss the ‘facts’ of these two obviously unrelated cases. 

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